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How will contacting a collection agency restart credit reporting or time limits to sue?

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Dear Michael: “My daughter has medical bills from 2008 when an emergency situation arose and she was not covered under insurance. She recently checked her credit report and contacted the collection sites to see if they were really hers. If you contact the collection agency does this restart the ‘7.5’ years on your credit report? Would it make any difference to see when the last contact or mail was sent to her? What if she didn’t live there anymore and the mail was returned to sender?”

That 7 and one half year credit reporting time frame is never really restarted unless an account is brought completely current. When a debt stops being paid, or perhaps in the case of a medical bill that never saw a payment, that then appears as a derogatory on your credit reports, is when the credit reporting clock starts ticking. Calling debt collection agencies and lenders about a debt does not change anything about credit reporting.

I do see people confuse restarting credit reporting limits with how calling or sending letters to debt collectors might restart the time limit to be legitimately sued for collection. I am going to post more than you were potentially asking about, because I do not think I have a dedicated post about how verbal or written acknowledgment of a debt can reset the time collectors must follow in order to file legitimate lawsuits.

Acknowledging or reconfirming a debt passed your state time limits to sue.

There are state specific laws that govern when your debt can be “reset” for the purposes of suing you in court in order to get a judgment and expand their options to force payment. This is commonly referred to as acknowledging your debt, or reconfirming it. More often than not this happens with a debt collection agency or debt buyer.

Most state laws speak only to reconfirming your debts and resetting the SOL to sue when you submit a written acknowledgment of the debt, or remit a partial payment (no matter how small). When in doubt about this issue, you will want to speak to someone with experience in consumer law and how your state courts have ruled on this issue in the past.

There are places online you can read about only negotiating with debt collectors in writing. And I think, over time, people have blurred the line of what debt collectors can legitimately do to sue, with credit reporting limitations.

Sending debt collectors only written offers to pay a reduced lump sum to settle debts has long been bad advice, as those written offers to pay can mistakenly reset the SOL to be sued. Negotiating on the phone is preferred, followed by any written agreement being sent by the debt collector, and not you. Are there exceptions to this? Absolutely there are, but this is enough of a concern to suggest phone calls over written communication with collection agencies.

Now… your daughter was only calling to verify the debt on her credit report was hers. That’s great because:

1. She did this over the phone.

2. She was trying to validate the debt as hers, not admit to the debt.

There are stark differences, and consumer rights you avail yourself, when disputing or requesting validation of a debt from a collection agency compared to what can be considered a creditors rights when you reconfirm or re-acknowledge a debt. You also have the right to dispute off of your credit reports any incorrect and out of date information .

Should you be concerned about restarting your debts?

There are different camps people fall into when it comes to communicating with debt collectors. Some folks preach how you should never communicate with debt collectors; others say only communicate in writing; and never admit the debt. Because most of my debt and credit career has consisted of helping people understand their options for resolving debt, and often with a collection agency, I have a different take.

I believe people should communicate with debt collectors when there is a goal to achieve. Here are some different goals I know people want to achieve when it comes to collection agencies.

  • You want to stay under the radar until the debt passes the SOL to be sued in your state.
  • You want to communicate, or not, if it serves the purpose of limiting your risks of being sued.
  • You want to resolve a collection agency debt so that your credit reports can be updated to show a paid collection.
  • You want phone calls and letter form collectors to stop.
  • You want to make sure a debt is yours, or that the amount owed is correct.
  • You want to be certain you would be dealing with the right debt collector.

If you do not have a purpose to communicate with a debt collector, you are often better off just biding your time until you can either no longer be sued, or the derogatory item is removed from your credit reports.

It is helpful that some states have passed laws that require debt collectors to clearly disclose that your states limitation on whether they can sue you has passed. And some larger debt collection agencies have settled with regulators to disclose expired lawsuit limits to all consumers they try to collect from, regardless of state of residence. I do hope that national law changes currently being contemplated include, at the least, the disclosure about your debt being time barred from being sued.

Lastly, I should point out that while derogatory credit reporting from unpaid credit cards and medical bills may not be reset from phone calls or letters you send, if you can still be sued for a debt, a judgment will create a new negative entry about the same debt, and that will cause fresh damage, and generally for a whole new 7 year period.

Based on the 2008 dates for when the medical debts were created, they should be deleted off of her credit reports soon. Post the dates you see the collection agencies are reporting for these accounts in the comments below. I may have more feedback based on what you share.

Anyone with questions or concerns about what collection agencies can do to mess with your credit reports, or how collectors view you as a potential lawsuit target, is welcome to post in the comments below for feedback.

4 comment(s) for this post:

  1. Emily:
    29 Apr 2015 Hi! I am the daughter. There are two different collect agencies handling two different claims that took place on the same day in 2008. I called both collection companies to see if the accounts were open and to iinquire about the delinquency date as well as my options if I found it was my responsibility to pay. I also requested statements from them so I could follow up with the original charger to see if they had been paid. Capital collections were really rude. First guaranteeing they would remove the account from my credit if paid in full. When faced with my question the man because very aggressive refusing to give me NY information since I was 'looking for a way to get out of paying' he then said he could no longer guarantee it would be removed even if I paid it then told me he was not going to go out of his way for me. . He also could not give me a delinquency date but it was handed over to them 12/10. Then I spoke to are. The woman was very nice to me. Explained my delinquency date was in 2009 and confirmed it was past the date they could sue and agreed it would probably fall off my credit score after 7 years or so. She also said if I paid 65% of my bill she would have it removed completely from my credit report within 30 days. At this point I don't think it's hurting my credit that much since the dates are so old but I'm not sure. Thank you so much for your advise and your time!
  2. Michael Bovee:
    30 Apr 2015 Thanks for posting the follow up details Emily. Can you confirm the name of the second debt collection agency? The one with the helpful debt collector? If you are not being held back from achieving any financial goals by the medical collections on your credit reports, it may be best to let things lay until they drop off your credit. If you do have financing goals, post more about that and lets go from there. What was the month for the date of service back in 2008?
  3. Emily:
    01 May 2015 Michael, The date was 10/29/08. The name of the Second company is ARS collection Services out of Florida. At this moment in time it is not holding me back. However I am interested in building my credit to get it up enough to be able to purchase a house in the coming year or two. It is unclear to me how much these old medical debts are truly effecting my credit negatively because there is also a Capital one card on my Report which Capital one could not verify as mine when I contacted them ( I have never had a credit card, with anyone). Capital one opened up a dispute to the credit agencies about this and I am waiting to receive mail from them with information about how to proceed. I also do not have much on my Report to really boost my score. I am going to be adding myself onto my boyfriend's Kohl's card once we've paid it half way off (I have been told using more than half of your allowed amount also reflects poorly on credit. I feel like I have given you a ton of information I am sorry if I gave you more than you needed. I am just trying to get a start on securing my future. Thank you again for your time and knowledge!
  4. Michael Bovee:
    01 May 2015 Thanks for sharing Emily. That is what this site is for. If the medical bills are deleted from your credit as early as November of this year, and the bogus Capital One trade line are deleted, you will be in good shape come home loan time after that. It does sound like you have a thin credit profile. Being added as an authorized user on healthy accounts can help. But you should also look to establish your own credit, and starting with a credit building card. I like the credit matching tools available through credit.com. Less than 30% credit utilization on the Kohl's credit card would be better. In fact, under 10 percent is optimal. But that can take some time to get there too.

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